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karate_kid1 40M
3 posts
12/6/2007 7:54 pm
i got injured in kung fu


i got injured in kung fu from to much aggression, i never had once made a injury to myself for having a sprained ankle or getting stabbed by someone elses spear. you know...no broken bones or bad falls, maybe one time...but that was from jumping too high i wanted to learn more, im anxious. i trianed bymyself on days ther was no kung fu so now im stuck resting off a few overworked tendons and muscles. even my chiropractor did the works and i found out that stomach pain i had prior to the hip pain was due to being into too much sugers and not enough organic nutrition. fixing the eating patterns.....no problem, i actually learn alot and all these veggies make me feel good. now im thinking, im still gonna be on the couch for awhile and that sucks. then i had an idea... what if everytime i get injured like this, i go replace kungfu for tai chi. sounds cool and i still learn non stop. i just dont know, one day i had a free lesson and slowly i felt a burn and slow pains. it was like i was getting my but kicked slowly...lol. well im gonna try this good deal for being a member already, so maybe somebody could give me some comments or advice before i make the decision and get myself into this. i think it should be fine if all im doing is slow movements and all. im just trying to find ways i can adjust my diet for better prevention and flexibility against injuries. so thats the damn china story i got for the day. help me out.

SteveZ
(Steve Z)
50M

12/7/2007 2:04 pm

Id say rest until fully healed before you start to get back
into the arts again. Try to stretch out every day, so that the
muscles do not tighten too much - which would result in re-injury
later.

I didnt maintain my stretching after a nasty sprained ankle... and
even after months of healing time, it would often re-injure. Finally,
I decided I had enough. I started out with ankle stretches, and
then started to kick my kick-bag. Even the smallest impact hurt...
but I kept going, and kicked as hard as possible
(gradually as I could stand it). I did this every other day for a
few weeks. Eventually, the tightened ankle muscles loosened up, and
strengthened up... and no re-injured.

To avoid all that, just keep stretching, and maintaining full
mobility. Yet, it still must heal well before straining it
with actual work. Otherwise, it will always be so weak that it will
never heal well - and any damages done will be even worse than the
1st injury.

Eat well, and even take vitamins and calcium to speed up the internal
healing. Use heating pads too. Massage the areas for stimulation,
bloodflow increase, and again - better healing times.


When you are healed, Tai Chi is a good option too. (not before)
Any time you do something very slowly - it will take more muscle
effort... hence it will make you quite strong, stable, and accurate.

Tai Chi works with softer energies, and teaches one to flow more
like water around forces, rather than try to resist or crash them.
Yet at its highest levels contains 'Fa Jing' - which is a lethal
power beyond your imagination. However, many Tai Chi schools
teach only the exercise form of Tai Chi. Which is fine for exercise,
but not for actual use in combat.


Its good to push yourself with your training... but you do have
to know your body well.. and listen to when its time to stop.
Over-training can do lifelong damages... so be careful.

When I first started.. I over did the workout, and the next day,
I was debating weather or not I needed to be hospitalized.. as
even a shallow breath would cause searing pains all over. I was
very lucky that I pulled through it.

A good plan is to alter your development each day. For example,
one day work legs... and the next, work the arms. This will give
at least one day of healing and building time for each group.

You can however, and should, always try to stretch out every day.
inflexibility is where most injuries come from. Ive heard that
Yoga is very good for that.. as well as might be something that
you can do in your current state.


Ariande 57M
165 posts
12/8/2007 12:49 am

Steve is right about the stretching/yoga, heat pads, healing time and tai chi, KK ...

Just from your profile photo, it's possible to see that you have a lot of (heart)fire- which is helpful with motivation but unhelpful when it counteracts (liver)wood because the liver stores blood and moistens your tendons (too much heat restricts the ability of the liver to keep them supple!)

1. Get yourself to an oriental medicine specialist and you may find where the pains really come from,
2. Have you talked with your gong fu instructor about altering your training program to suit your personal limits,
3. I use Balance Tex tape on my ankles and as a temporary measure for injured students at the Komdo gym - it works really well for short term muscle/tendon assistance,
4. There are many natural chinese medications, like Qi Li San, that help stimulate blood flow, repair damaged blood vessels and strengthen the relevant vital organs (treating yourself the Chinese way should affirm your belief in Chinese martial arts)

I bear no arms,
may God help me
If I ever have to use my art


karate_kid1 40M
2 posts
12/10/2007 3:37 pm

i like the fact that im not doing nothing until it heals, all nothing but relaxation for me. yeah i do some jogging here and ther to keep something and that doesnt hurt. one thing about my pulled shoulder is i notice more strength even tho the pain is still as painfull, its only been a couple of days and bit by bit the pain elleviates, but whenever i do something like typing ow. or ow. driving it shoots right back and i feel like im gonna be on the bed for about a month as for chinese nutrition, tell me about it. i mean really, i have no idea. i dont take the stuff from our local GNC becouse all the products have a list of twenty or more chemicals so my doctor wouldnt know by asking for his advise on the subject. i just need a good reference or a chinese cookbook or something. thanx for the advice, im taking it.